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Fab's avatar

Appreciate the moral clarity in naming the Iranian regime as evil and taking Iranian lives seriously. Where I think this piece goes wrong is in two places: the means you’re implicitly advocating, and the way you frame everyone who’s skeptical as part of a decadent or cowardly “West that can’t stand up to evil.”

On the means: you talk a lot about our duty to “stand up,” but very little about the actual track record of what standing up with bombs and regime‑change logic has done in practice. In Iran in 1953, in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Guatemala, Chile, etc. Those weren’t episodes where Western leaders were confused about who was “evil”; they were sold in similarly moral language, and they frequently left ordinary people with failed states, civil war, or a different brand of authoritarianism. If we’re serious about morality, we have to be just as demanding about consequences as we are about intentions.

On the politics: a lot of the piece reads less like an argument about Iran and more like a broad swipe at “the left”, as if concern about blowback, civilian harm, or double standards is mostly neurosis, self‑hatred, or secret sympathy for tyrants. That flattens a huge range of left and liberal positions into a caricature and makes it too easy to dismiss any anti‑intervention argument as weakness. There’s a difference between refusing to name evil and doubting that another Western military intervention is the best way to defeat it.

I’d love to see this same moral urgency combined with a more historically grounded and less culture‑war‑coded account of means: what concrete end‑state in Iran are we actually aiming at, what path is being proposed to get there, and what evidence from past interventions suggests that path is more likely to deliver freedom than repeat the same tragedies under a more flattering story.

Trent Clark's avatar

Two things are true and you are ignoring #2:

1) Iran has been a state sponsor of terror for decades, an enemy of the US and the West.

2) The American President should consult Congress, address the nation, outline goals and objectives, explain the reasons for, and have a plan in place for American evacuation before launching a war against a country of 93 million people on the other side of the planet. Trump did none of this.

What President Trump is doing is unprecedented, reckless, and potentially unconstitutional. I don’t know a single pro-Ayatollah person….but I know plenty of people that are war-weary and concerned about executive overreach. The ends do not justify the means to all of us.

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